Buffalo to rochester -
Sue on 07/14/2020 03:05 AM
Is this a good section to ride? I don’t want to be on the road.
wnybubba from Bflo - Roc on 07/14/2020 09:39 AM
Yes you'll get a nice feeling for the Canalway. Along the riverfront up to N. Tonawanda and pick up the Canal... new section up to Lockport see the Locks there [also things to do] Then you'll leave pavement and follow the Barge Canal through smaller towns, more locks as you bike through more rural areas and then into Rochester-- a nice destination. Lots to do in ROC and consider going to Pittsford before ending. If Ice Cream is a reward... definitely hit Pittsford Dairy Farm a block north of the trail. Enjoy.
Parking in Lyons -
John from Syracuse on 07/13/2020 10:28 AM
Looking for info on places to park overnight in Lyons NY.
Thanks in advance
Hotels Near GAP Trail -
Wandering Buckeye from Dayton, OH on 07/09/2020 10:15 AM
How often are their water fountains on the Erie?
Bobthebuilder from Cleveland Ohio on 07/09/2020 10:39 AM
Bright Morning in West Newton is excellent. Possibly the only choice too
wnybubba from Bflo - Roc on 07/09/2020 10:51 PM
The trail goes from town to town, so there should be little concern for being able to acquire water - whether purchasing it or asking to fill up your bottle. I never had an issue.
John from Cobleskill from Cobleskill on 07/10/2020 11:35 AM
Not that it helps much but I discovered a GREAT source of spring fed water on the Erie Canal. It is a mile west of Lock 16, Mindenville, right the road. It is piped off of a hillside and flows at about 15 gallons a minute and it is so pure and good. It must come from an underground source.
Since I've discovered it, I use it for ALL my drinking water at home. People line up with their trucks and 250 gallon tanks on the back and fill up.
Country living :)
cr from Buffalo on 07/12/2020 07:37 PM
Worst case, carry a Sawyer filter, and filter from the canal.
Walking the Erie Canal Sechenectady to Buffalo Sept 2020 -
Mikehannonp from Watertown NY on 07/12/2020 12:24 PM
Looking for any information about hiking the trail. We are avid hikers and finished the Camino in 2018. Looking for any information to include lodging or other advise or experiences.
Amtrak Service -
Ken H from Ashburn Virginia on 06/29/2020 09:22 AM
Hello Fellow Canal riders,
I am planning to do a 3 day ride on the Erie Canal trail from Buffalo to like Rome in early September. Does anyone know what Amtraks policy on bike transportation. Other Amtrak trains provide bike storage in special cars and I have used that to ride the GAP trail from Pittsburg to Cumberland MD.
Other than the train, interested in bike transport services available.
Thanks very much for any information.
wnybubba from Bflo-Roc on 06/29/2020 10:29 AM
Hi Ken. It seems rail travel isn't very good with bikes.
Look earlier on this Forum for a thread that covers the topic.
Rick on 07/08/2020 02:33 PM
I don't have the info in front of me but there is 1 train aday from Albany to Buffalo. It offers roll- on service. Departs Albany around 7:30 pm with a 12am Buffalo arrival. There is a hostel about 2 miles from the train station. Please note these are appx times as I don't have the info handy. If you visit Amtrak you can figure it out but you need to "read between the lines. They don't make it easy to understand. Which is stupid as we're trying to give Amtrak our business.
wnybubba from Bflo - Roc on 07/08/2020 04:50 PM
Ken - Rick is right about one train and times. The only thing I'm thinking I remember is that the roll off was in the Depew station. If I'm right, then the hostel is not that close. The downtown station (Exchange Street) is close to the Hostel. Just make sure which station you are able to use.
cr from Buffalo on 07/08/2020 09:46 PM
wnybubba is correct: The rollon service is to Depew, not Downtown Buffalo.
John from Cobleskill from Cobleskill on 07/09/2020 08:35 AM
The info posted is correct because I called this week and they confirmed it. I also suggested to them that by providing bike storage from Albany to Buffalo (Exchange St) they'd have a lot of business from bikers since it is a natural partnering of bikers, the path and transportation needs. The operator stated that if it was profitable, they'd be doing it and, according to her it must not be profitable. I then interjected that by that thinking then the Albany to Depew train, getting in at midnight, was a real money maker, it makes the cash pile up, since that is what they offer. She had no reply :(
Okay, I know it was me being snarky but having the Albany to Buffalo train carry bikes is a win-win and I don't see why it isn't done.
cr from Buffalo on 07/09/2020 09:47 AM
I concur, it is kinda silly to not have rollon service on all lines, but I also understand cycle touring is not a huge business (ie, it's hard to find a purpose designed touring bike most times in LBSs).
I think a lot of this has to do with purposeful kneecapping of multi-modal transport at various levels of government until pretty recently. Now, it seems (In NY at least), the federal government (Who runs Amtrak) is the blocker here :(
wnybubba from Bflo - Roc on 07/09/2020 11:39 AM
It seems that this doesn't have to be so difficult. I've seen 3 different approaches: (1) Toronto VIA allows roll-on service onto any non-handicapped car with a limit of two bikes (I believe). (2) The AMTRAK Capitol Limited (once daily) that services DC -> Cumberland, MD -> Pittsburgh (specifically for bikes), that has 8 racks that must be reserved and cost $20. [Their reservation system is not user friendly to find a day with available racks.] (3) AMTRAK service here in NY (once daily) with specific roll-on stations.
What is so difficult to model after the TO VIA train system. It works great. Get on with your bike, get off when you get to your destination.
cr from Buffalo on 07/09/2020 11:56 AM
It's not that it's hard to do... It's that promoting multi-modal transit isn't what they want done at the federal, pro-car-everywhere level.
Forums for C&O Canal Trail and GAP trail -
Art from Gaithersburg, MD on 07/03/2020 07:09 AM
Can someone point me to forums for the C&O Canal Trail and GAP Trail?
Anonymous on 07/03/2020 10:39 AM
That was fun! I hadn't done any research on the C&O or Great Allegheny Trail. Just got my "feet wet" and learned a bunch. It's on my Bucket List. Interesting that the GAT is nicely groomed and only 150 miles. The C&O appears is a bit less groomed with typical dirt/gravel lanes with grass strips in middle.
A bit disappointed in the NPS website. Haroers Feery trial Bridge damaged due to derailment -- lots of info but nothing about what the re-route is! Hmmm...
Anyway -- I found what you were looking for! Here it us:
wnybubba from Bflo - Roc on 07/03/2020 11:44 AM
That previous post was from me! Sorry it posted as Anonymous.
Art from Gaithersburg, MD on 07/03/2020 03:29 PM
Thanks, wnybubba. Just what I was looking for.
wnybubba from Bflo - Roc on 07/03/2020 05:44 PM
Glad to help. Looks like a good ride. What are your plans?
Art from Gaithersburg, MD on 07/04/2020 08:58 AM
We live in Gaithersburg, MD, and have done the C&O Trail from DC to Cumberland and the Gap from Cumberland to the Continental Divide.
We are planning to do day trips on the GAP in 15mi sections (30mi RT). We are thinking of Meyersdale, PA, and Ohiopyle as possible starting points. What are the trails like in these areas? And we are open to other suggestions as well as places to stay.
wnybubba from Bflo - Roc on 07/08/2020 05:21 PM
Art - I wish I could help, but I'm just starting to look into both the C&O and GAP as rides myself. Possibly post something on the other forum for good answers! I enjoyed the 360 mile ride on the Canalway Trail and figured I was already outfitted so a quick 150 mile ride on the GAP is attractive. Problem I see is that PGH is a 4-hour drove from my place, but I'm looking into parking in PGH and taking the train back from Cumberland so I don't have to depend on rides. (Make my wife happy!)
Art from Gaithersburg, MD on 07/09/2020 08:38 AM
To: wnybubba. Thanks anyway. Posted same to GAP forum, no response yet.
Tribes Hill Park and Boat Launch in Fort Hunter -
Lisa from fairport on 07/08/2020 02:15 PM
I am planning a multiple day bike ride along the trail. Does this parking allow for overnight parking?
wnybubba from Bflo - Roc on 07/08/2020 04:57 PM
Lisa, I don't think you will have any problem leaving a vehicle at Lock 12 (Tribes Hill). I camped out there and there are several places that can accommodate a vehicle. Also, the Lock attendant who I dealt with in the morning was very accommodating to me. NOTE: You posed the question about Boat Launch area and I'm answering about the Lock Area -- they may not be the same. The difference may be one side of the river and the other.