Erie Canal Forum

I am in the planning stages for a trip. I am looking at taking a train from Erie, Pa to Albany, Ny. Any experiences with what happens to your bike? Can you take your Orlieb panniers as a carry on? Where can you buy canister gas for my rocket stove when in Albany? I was thinking of Ubering to Walmart in Albany to get food and other supplies.

The train question gets answered a lot. Search the group for Amtrak, and you will find soooo much info.

I am planning a bike ride from Buffalo to Albany on Erie Canal bike path. Are any of the trails closed from the current weather? Also what do you do with your bike when getting supplies , do you have to lock up your bike.

I am planning a bike ride from Buffalo to Albany on Erie Canal bike path.

**Great idea!

Are any of the trails closed from the current weather?

**Nope.

Also what do you do with your bike when getting supplies , do you have to lock up your bike.

**We lock ours.

Looking for a one way shuttle. Would like to park in Lyons and shuttle back to Lockport.

Does anyone know where I can find a map that shows where you have to share the road with motorized vehicles? The maps from back home are color coded for the type of road to show paved paths, gravel, shared with vehicles, etc. The website says 13%, but I’d like to know where that is so I can check it out ahead of time. I’m from Portland, Oregon, where cars seem friendlier to cyclists. Here it feels like every road ride is a ride for my life. Thanks!

Google PTNY Erie Map and then open their interactive map. Gray is road.

Can anyone comment on the safety of riding along Hwy 31 between Port Byron and Brown Rd near Lock 26. Seems a long way to be a road and that is the Empire Trail.

thanks

I’ve heard that camping is permitted on any canal corporation property though I haven’t found that information on any of the websites. Is that true that I can pitch a tent anywhere alongside the canal ?

How's it going?

Hi,

Is the bike path between Lockport and Medina paved?

In general, are all bike paths paved along the Erie Canal?

Thank you in advance,
-Karen

Google PTNY Erie Map and then open their interactive map. The different colors show the path material.

Was just out there in May and the surface for the most part was hard dirt. Very rideable. I had no problems. Enjoy your trip that is a section that I enjoy very much.

Hi bikers,
If you are traveling through Little Falls give us a try. We are right on the bike trail. We serve a full Grille menu, bbq and soft ice cream. We have restrooms to accommodate you personal needs. Stop by and have a great meal right on the trail. Closed Tuesday and Wednesday. Happy trails!

Hello, Does anyone have experience camping at the Middleport Park and Marina? I'm having trouble contacting someone there to see if it's a viable option. Thanks!

Have you looked this over? https://middleport-newyork.com/village-parks?

Middleport is a great option. They allow camping, you have power as well as bathrooms and showers available. They just ask for a $20 donation. I even asked the lock keeper to be sure. Very nice place.

I am flying into Albany and hope to store my bike carrier bags in Albany. Does anyone have any suggestions on services or locations? Willing to pay but it is a bit of an odd request to just leave the carriers for a week. We also would love to hear about any 'can't miss' eateries or places to see. Thx

If you spend the night in a place at the beginning, and at the end, they can probably hold them for you while you are gone.

My friend and I are planning to ride the trail in September. She thinks a road bike would be best but reading here that the trail is mostly gravel I'm wondering if a mountain bike would be better - I don't have a gravel bike. Please give me your thoughts. Thanks.

I've ridden a Trek Domane 4.3 25mm road bike between Medina and Fairport for thousands of miles over the years and had little trouble.

There are spots were the path washes out after a heavy rain that can be a pain depending on how many bikes have gone thru before hand. I can't speak for the enter length of the canal, haven't road the entire length.

Found this - "Surface. Mostly flat and off-road, the Erie Canalway Trail includes various surfaces. About 45 percent of the trail is paved, while 41 percent of the trail is stone dust, and 14 percent of the trail is on road. Very few natural stretches of trail remain."

My wife and I ride a MTB and town bike on our long trips. We find them comfortable and reliable.

We saw lots of people on road bikes. You and your friend should probably ride the same type of bike so that you can hold similar speeds and share inner tubes.

We did encounter some softer spots that would have been a little sketchier on a road bike, but they would be doable.

I too have ridden a Domane on the Canal. Just parts of it are good with that bike. The rest I used a Hybrid with 42mm tires and a Touring Bike with 38's. I find I don't care for straight handlebars much. You could just put a wider tire on your raod bike and be good to go.

Hi there,
I'm trying to plan a solo ride on the Canal, for later this summer. I'll be getting a car ride to Buffalo, getting dropped off, and riding to Albany, hopefully.
I don't know how to reserve a seat on Amtrak, in a bike car. I don't know if I can get myself to Albany on a specific date, and time.
Any voices of experience welcome.
Thanks

We will be taking our boat from the Great Lakes to the east coast via the Erie Canal and will have bikes aboard. It would be nice to make several different day trips to get off the boat for a bit and get some exercise. Any suggestions for good places to stop and leave the boat for the day and get a nice ride in? Will be traveling in September of 23.

Amsterdam.

Dock at Riverlink park. Ride over the Overlook bridge, one block more and you are on the trail. East or West is a nice ride.

Get the Map.

https://empiretrail.ny.gov/request-map

Brockport, so you can go to Barber's.

You can use Google maps, look at each town, and see if it looks like there's good stuff there. Looking back, I don't think that there are any wrong places to stop.

Pittsford has a nice waterfront. Little Falls was kind of cool.

Keep in mind the Main Street bridge is closed in Brockport for cars. Dock at the south area between the two lift bridges for Barbers. You won't need a bike.

The Albany EC trail marker is missed by many. Go to www.hmdb.org search Albany basin you’ll get image location and gps. Search wedding of the waters and you’ll get Buffalo info. While riding the trail or night before you can search for local historical markers. hmdb is an historical marker database

Hi folks,
My boyfriend and I are planning a four day bike ride on the trail in June. We are looking for transportation with our bikes from Pittsford to Tonawanda or somewhere close by to these towns. Is there a bus, train, shuttle service, that anyone knows of? Also, we would love to find a service that could shuttle our luggage from place to place. Thanks for your input. ??

Train stops near your points would be Rochester (near Pittsford) and Buffalo (near Tonawanda) shuttle for gear will be hard to find and probably costly. I’m not sure about bus service.

Getting bikes onto a train when and where you want is a crapshoot. If I lived in Rochester near the train station and was planning to camp or sleep under a bridge, then I might try to take the train. But I don't, and wifey likes to sleep on a bed, so we need reservations, so I can't take the risk on the train.

So, I've been around here a bit, and I even looked to see where Bennington is, and here's what I'd suggest.

*Park at the Amtrak parking in Buffalo, which is supposed to be nice and safe and reasonably priced.

*Ride 4 days to Rochester. Get a hotel in Rochester, get some sleep.

*In the morning, pack all your stuff and your bikes and ask the hotel to hang onto it for you. (make sure they are cool with this ahead of time, of course). Check out of the hotel.

*Take Amtrak to Buffalo, jump in your car, drive back to Rochester, collect your stuff from the hotel, and then drive a little further and spend the night somewhere cool in the finger lakes area.

*Next day, drive the rest of the way home.

This saves you from trying to get your bikes and luggage on the train, but lets you have a train ride as a shuttle. Your car is parked somewhere safe. Your driving distances are easy.

Take the Amtrak from Rochester to Buffalo. You need to make a reservation for the bicycles, which locks in your dates, but it's reliable and inexpensive. The ride from Pittsford to downtown Rochester is pleasant. The bike trails around downtown Rochester have been improved over the years, with some information kiosks and overlooks on the Genessee River, etc.

Wilderness Voyagers may offer some sort of shuttle service. I know that they do for the GAP.

I have read that people typically start in Buffalo and finish in Albany. How crazy of an idea is it to start in Albany and finish in Buffalo?

Good evening! I think there are two issues to consider. First, going west to Buffalo, there is a slight elevation change. Buffalo is a bit higher than Albany which is a sea level. Again, not huge but there is an elevation change heading west. Secondly , there is the wind factor. The wind seems to be more active in the spring. Two weeks ago I drove to Albion and headed west. It was a pleasant sunny day with an active west east flow making cycling somewhat of a challenge. Leaving Middleport to Albion, I had the wind in my back and all was very smooth. I find west to east more agreeable. Safe travels!

Either would be fine. Going along with what Joseph says, wind would be the bigger issue, I think.

Thank You!

We cycled Albany to Buffalo last September. Did have a Dayton pretty Good headwinds, but by far, it was great to have the prettiest part of the ride the last 2 days. Out of all the cyclists we ran across doing the entire trail, we were the ONLY ones riding E to W. Glad we did!

Pat

It should have said…. We had a day of pretty decent (hard) headwinds, but got thru it all okay

Launched the Kayaks last week. The park was lovely, and both the ramp and the kayak launch sites were in great shape. My paddling buddy and I went across Route 5S to the little country store for egg sandwiches and picnicked at the park. The very conscientious state boat inspector was there on duty.

I am wondering about the road from the trail to Niagara County Camp Resort. The map says its about 3 miles from the trail. Is it safe to travel by bike?
Thanks

I'd suggest you put Niagara County Camp Resort in street view and travel the road back to the canal. They appear to have gravel shoulders, the roads themselves look find. I'd, if anything, would watch out for dogs and nitwit monster pickup trucks buzzing you. The canal bridge is steel neck with the same type road bed.
should be fine.

Are the picnic tables found at the locks and lift bridges available for public use or are these reserved for the lock keepers and bridge tenders?

I stayed at Lock 5 on the Champlain Trail last year and there were tables, grills, on overhead shelter over 2 tables. Porta privy on the the other side of the lock. You are supposed to call ahead but I didn't and had no problems with the lock keeper. Even got water from the barrels they bring to the lock.

Good afternoon! Does anyone know about parking in Albion? Hope to start in Albion next week and go west but, I could not see any parking areas near the canal in Albion.

Many thanks!

I'm going to ride my fat bike from Albion to Medina. It looked to me when I stop by, there were places to park between to two lift bridges on the north side in town. Take a look on street view and a satellite view. I was only going to be there a few hours. I don't know about over night.

Many thanks for the advice. I will take another look on Google. My trip is just a day one, so there should be no issues. Thanks again!

Arriving via AMTRAK and looking for suggestions where to stay near bike trail

My wife and I are driving up to Buffalo this Sunday to ride the trail to Albany over the week. We will be taking Amtrak from Albany back to Buffalo. Any advice on safe week long parking near the Exchange St Amtrak station in Buffalo?

Also any other advice or tips are always welcome. We are doing a credit card tour this trip staying in hotels, airBnB's and Inns. We love finding places for a good beer, coffee, food etc.. when on a bike tour.

-tommy

Hello All - I read that the Dunn Memorial Bridge (Albany) pedestrian access is closed. Does anyone know anything about when it may re-open? Riding the canal at the end of April and wondering if I'll need to plan to ride the detour through Troy to get to the train station. Thanks in advance!

A temporary barrier and walkway was installed and it connects to the bike trails. Opened for pedestrians and cyclists around March 6th

Great news! Thanks for the info - much appreciated!

The detour is very easy to follow. It's right next to Jerry Jennings landing.

The detour is very easy to follow. It's right next to Jerry Jennings landing.

Hey my fellow trekkers !! I’m about to embark on a trek from NYC roundabouts to Rochester planning to take the canal trail the whole way
Been jumping around maps feeling everything out planning etc .. just looking for any useful advice tips anything! Anyone might want to share .. has anyone camped out on the trail itself? If so how does that work .. I have a fantastic portable hammock ! How’s the peace and quiet level for camping on the trail? Thanks for your help!

The trail jumps from street, to canal path, to highway, to bike trail, to dirt track. Make sure to trace the path of the trail and understand every interchange. Many of them have signs. Many do not. There are improvements every year.

We had a great time. I hope to ride the trail again some day.

What sections of the trail are paved.

As I recall from my 2022 trip:

Everything from Buffalo (Naval Park) to Lockport is paved as is the stretch from Rochester to east of Fairport. You'll be on the road for about 10 miles prior to reaching Weedsport. After that, and points in-between, it's stone dust. Once you hit Syracuse, it's paved through to Cicero. Be mindful of signage on that stretch or you'll miss the trail around SYR and travel through downtown SYR. After Cicero, it's stone dust all the way to the Marcy lock with the exception of navigating the miserable traverse on surface streets through Rome. (signage sucks!!). It's paved from the Marcy lock through Utica. There's ~3 miles of road travel just east of Utica. From there it's all stone dust until Schnectady where it's fully paved to downtown Albany. You'll hit surface streets in Cohoes. This isn't an exhaustive list of paved sections since the trail is also paved through each small town or you're on surface streets through those towns. Recommend 32mm tires at a minimum for the ride. Wide 650B's are overkill. Thirty-sevens are perfect. Sign up for the 360 challenge. Ride it. Enjoy it. Hope this helps.

Correction: Paved from Naval Park through N. Tonawanda. Stone dust from there to Lockport.

Referring to Statsanalyst's correction, the trail is indeed paved from North Tonawanda to Lockport with some limited roadway segments. It is a great ride with a handy ice cream stand along the way. One has to be careful at some roadway crosses near Lockport; traffic seems to be blind to the presence of these features and move fairly fast without yielding to cyclists.

this map shows trail surface.
https://www.ptny.org/cycle-the-erie-canal/trail-map